amethyst_koneko

Jeeze, darlin'--what happened??? What the hell did they do to you??
And are they all insane and raving like they were the last time I dared to peek in to get a download link??
They were all but burning Yaoi fans in the town square and throwing a celebration for Royal Day and all that 108 nausea that I really don't wanna see anything soon if ever...

Edited Date: 2010-06-18 01:47 am (UTC)

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Insane raving anti yaoi-ism isn't running rampant over there, not right now anyway. There's just a bunch of persons over there who apparently can't understand my simple question. My question was about Roy, not Ed, so telling me ad infinitum that Ed and Al promised not to use the Stone was pointless! *headdesk* I wanted to know why it was OK for Roy to use the Philosopher's Stone but not OK for Ed. (Apparently Ed using the Stone is just the most heinous crime in all of creation. *eyeroll*) Why is Roy held to a lesser standard? If using the Stone is such a horrible offense, why didn't anyone even bat an eyelash when Roy used it? FMA has taught us all along that Philosopher's Stone are evil things not to be fiddled with so why is Roy using it no big deal? pfft. Just one more bit of FAIL to add to the pile that is chapter 108. :p

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That's a bit of a relief. I have fic that will be done today later or tomorrow that touches on the endings of FMA, Brohood/Manga, Bluebird's Illusion, CoS and fanfics themselves--inspired by the works of fantasist Neil Gaiman. It's called "One Candle Shines in a Thousand Doorways" and its a story I need to get out of my system. I thought I actually might post it there--and then face the bombardment of anger from the hetshippers for daring to suggest that ALL endings are Truth. Just depends on how much wank I get flung in my face.

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The wank is fairly low right now so I say go for it. Post away! :) Hopefully you'll be able to avoid the hetshipper feeding frenzy. :D

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The hetshippers need to be told the comm rules don't say no yaoi. They say everything is welcomed, so they need to get off their high horses before I make them >_>

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I suppose they take the attitude of "We've WON!" and in the past week the wank was quite horrible. I was going to withdraw for good from the con--I no longer read it--butthen I thought that if the yaoi authors disappear, we've given them what they want.
BTW--that Icon makes me melt every time you use it!

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Blood_winged made it, it's for the fic she's writing for me: Lovely Rebel: it goes from Ed/Greed to Ed/Roy to a threesome! You should check it out sometime :)

I hear all kinds of wank about het people (not all) driving out the yaoifans and it's so wrong. No where does the comm say No yaoi!

It says it welcomes everything. Why is it so hard for some of the people to accept?!?!

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peppermintwords.livejournal.com

That is so immature! I mean, seriously, why the hell do they need to show that kind of attitude?

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why the hell do they need to show that kind of attitude?

Because the mods won't stop them. Anyone who shows up over there with opinions (God help you if you have questions!) that differ from those of the holier-than-thou moral majority (the secret power behind the mods) gets run out on a rail. The hetshippers attack like piranha and the poor yaoi fangirl who dared to speak her mind and try to defend her fellow fandom sisters finds herself chastised and kicked out of the comm. True story that. It really happened to me. EdWin fans are the most vicious bunch of bitches I have ever seen bar none.

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nochick-fics.livejournal.com

That comm seems to be little more than a barely moderated breeding ground for wank as far as I can tell.

Edit: Unless that actually *is* the answer to the specific question you asked?

Edited Date: 2010-06-18 01:58 am (UTC)

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darkblysse.livejournal.com

The question/post in question (108 spoilers): http://community.livejournal.com/fm_alchemist/6888017.html

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a barely moderated breeding ground for wank Boy ain't that the truth! Found that one out the hard way that's for sure. :p

No, it wasn't. :p If I asked you why it was OK for Roy to use the Philosopher's Stone to get his eyesight back but it was the end of life as we know it for Ed to use one, would you answer it's because Ed and Al promised they wouldn't use it? The question is about Roy, not Ed! There's like 17 or 18 responses over there and not one of them came even remotely close to answering the question. Not one of them got the gist of the question. Perhaps I didn't word the question clearly enough to the point across but for the love of God, can't just one person in all of this fandom give me an answer that doesn't involve that damned promise??

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nochick-fics.livejournal.com

I think I get what you were asking. Personally, I thought it was a bit off that Roy chose to get his sight back; to me, it was a bit out of his character (as I know him), regardless of his military goals. But wtf do I know?

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Roy kept saying during the fight that he felt so useless so I think he wanted his sight back. I did too really. I just didn't expect it happen with Marcoh showing up like a fairy godmother, handing over the Stone, and magically making everything all better. Arakawa used just about every cliche in the book to wrap up FMA didn't she? :/

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The whole point of the question really was that if Philosopher's Stones are soooo evil, why was it OK for Roy to use it to begin with? Why was him partaking of "forbidden fruit", so to speak, OK? Ed, who is practically the messiah amongst the hetshippers, couldn't even consider it yet Roy could do pretty much as he damn well pleased. He makes one little promise to rebuild Ishbal and the ultimate gift dropped right into his lap.

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eve_n_furter

I wondered about that too. It's self contradictory for a reformed mass murderer (thinking of what Roy did in Ishbal) to accept the use of the philosophers stone: containing an unknown number of souls from murdered people, to help rebuild Ishbal and make amends. The only reason I could think of would be that it's to late for the people who make up the stone anyway, and this way it will be turned into something good, but why didn't that apply for Ed and Al?
I see the stones as a kind of gravestones, and think they should be left alone out of respect for the souls they contain, never mind the possibilities of misusing their powers.

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Well she did do a contradict when she has Ed all: It's evil and should not be used at all!

But lets Roy and Ling have one. Um no, just no. That's making him ooc and thus everything he worked for not right, he would not allow to people he thinks of friends or even random strangers to use it.

Remember in anime 1 when he beat up Russell for using the red water? We need that Ed back. Because the cow just made her own character ooc

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Well she already made Ed OOC when he allowed Roy and Ling to have stone even though he always talks about the dangers and not using one. So why would he let 2 people have one to use? No, just no, to me, that makes Ed OOC and pretty much just ruined what he was trying not to do in the first place but yeah, it was the everyone is perfect and happy ending thing. Quite frankly while I might get lynched, I think if roy didn't get to keep his eyesight, it'd be more real and less fairy tale but eh, she wanted the fairy tale ending it seemed.

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ibshafer.livejournal.com

B-bye...

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B-bye? Me is confused.

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You would think with how fucking horrible they find it and make it out to be, they wouldn't have let Ling or Roy have one. SO yeah, I find issue with it because they do NOT find it okay for using the stone. SO I think the Cow/creator just condricted herself. If it's so horrible, why the hell would they let anyone use one then?!?! If you're not and it's that bad, don't let friends use it! I find that to be quite bs what she did too. Remember the first anime? Ed yelled at Russell for the red water? And how they wanted to try to find something else to use since the stone is made of people? Yeah.. SO where the hell is the Ed that did those things. That comm pisses me off too.

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I'm going back to lurking. Never posting there again, not if I can help it. :p You'd think when you ask questions pertaining to Roy that you'd get answers pertaining to Roy, not Ed. Apparently not. :p Philosopher's Stones are very bad things not to be messed with...unless you need a magical plot device to make everything all happy happy joy joy then it's OK. FAIL! >.<

The Cow totally blew the end of the manga and I don't mean the whole EdWin thing either. Even a blind man could see that was going to happen. If the Cow had stopped to think for 2 seconds, she woulda realized that having Hohenheim be sacrificed to bring Al back was the perfect solution! Hohenheim's leaving was what set everything Ed and Al did into motion so him being what brought Al back was a perfect full circle ending! Hohenheim was dying anyway and wanted to make amends for what he'd done so why not let him do it? His death would have had more meaning, Ed would still have his alchemy, and Ed and Al's precious "promise" wouldn't be broken! It's pure win! :)

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Oh, I agree. Not to mention Ed gets to use that power twice--to transmute himself (and go through instant convienent puberty--that whole freudian 'piercing' incident was just to give Ed a sexually mature body)and to give him the power to invade Pride. Ed gets into the Dragonball Z type Super Saiyan state...it bothers me when he turned into Edward Elric, superman. No, Hoho's death would have brought it full circle and I honestly believed it would have happened. And like in CoS, one wonders if Ed will find a certain spiritual aridity in his loss of freedom, his powers and his purpose and his brother. To me, seeing him dressed like Hoho boarding a train with the suitcase alone---that has a subtle, bitter tang to the ending, One thinks of history repeating itself...and quite frankly that is better than some saccarine Harry Potter ending

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lectawindwalker.livejournal.com

I have to agree that FMA was better than that stupid Harry Potter epilogue. I think the HP ending would have been better without it.

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lectawindwalker.livejournal.com

I've actually dropped out of most comms for the same reason. People seem to be getting stupid and the wank is getting out of control.

In response to your question, I think Arakawa had Roy use the stone because h wasn't simply using it for his own personal gain. Roy wants to be Fuhrer, wants to make Amestris a better place and to do that he needs his "vision."

(I would like to point out that I, in no way condone Roy's using the stone though, I was pissed)

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priestess-grrrl.livejournal.com

I hear you. I thought it was really ballsy of you to post those questions in the first place, knowing how that fucking comm is. It's total bullshit that we have to put up with their stupidiy. It's like, I just want to discuss my fucking show, is that too much to ask? I just want to talk about something that was really, really important to me and now it's all ruined and I'm really, really upset about it! It's like, sheesh, we're fellow fans! Can't they at least extend a little human decency?

If it were the other way around, and Ed had suddenly left winry and run off with Roy at the end of the manga (yeah, I know, in our fangirl wet dreams!), I mean... If one of them was really upset that their ship got sunk, I wouldn't be unsympathetic. Maybe behind their backs on yaoi comms, but not on a fucking public forum, that is supposed to be for EVERYONE, dammit!!

Ugh, I have to stop ranting or it's going to get me all upset again. What a way to end 5 years of one of my favorite fandoms. *sigh*

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